Safe and Effective and should they be government mandated?
Published on March 16, 2008 By lulapilgrim In Current Events

Vaccinations--Pros and Cons

Safe and Effective and should they be government mandated?

The number of available vaccines are increasing and so are the questions of parents and concerned individuals who want to be enlightened about the pros and cons.

On another forum, KFC noted that some parents in Belgium are being jailed for refusing to have their children vaccinated against polio. According to a Lifesite news report, 2 sets of parents have been sentenced to five months in prison as well as a hefty fine for their crime. It’s a crime because the polio vaccine is legally mandated in Belgium and France. The article didn’t reveal why the parents have refused to vaccinate their children. However, vaccination has long been a subject of health and ethical concern, especially since the discovery that numerous vaccines, including several versions of the polio vaccine, are made using tissue from aborted fetuses. It’s unclear whether or not Belgium's polio vaccine has been tainted with fetal tissue.

While no vaccine is 100% safe, medical experts and health officials have long insisted the risk of diseases far outweigh the risks associated with vaccines. And that’s where the rub lies. It’s a small percentage, but what if it happens to you? Various anti-vaccination groups argue that long-term health concerns for children who have received vaccinations have not been adequately addressed, with some claiming that vaccination shots can lead to medical problems such as cancer, autism and even SIDS, "sudden infant death syndrome".

In 1986, due to pressure from parents who children had suffered devastating problems after being vaccinated, the government created the National Vaccine Compensation Program and since then has paid out more than 1.2 billion dollars in settlements to compensate families or individuals in which vaccines killed, caused brain-damage or otherwise seriously hurt children.

Right now, we have pretty much employed a "one size fits all" vaccination policy and as specified on the Universal Childhood Immunization Schedule our children as early as only a few days old are required to get certain vaccines. Besides that, there is a concern about the practice of giving a child as many as 6 separate shots or one super shot containing as many as 9 vaccines (some containing mercury) in one visit. It seems that 75% of the settlements cited above concerned the DPT vaccine given to babies at about 2 months old. Turns out they are linking many multiple learning disabilities as a result of a negative reaction to DPT.

In an effort to make this world a better place, and with a billion dollar budget, the drug industry and the medical community are racing forward developing all kinds of vaccines. Case in point is the new HPV vaccine which is supposed to protect against certain strains of human papillomavirus (STD) which lead to cervical cancer. Problem is only a fraction of that budget goes to fund independent studies of side effects and that finally has come to the attention to some in Congress.

Who decides what drugs are forced on children? One parent group based in Ohio supports allowing parents to opt their children out of vaccines and as a result, a dozen or so states have granted a limited medical exemption, a religious exemption, and a philosophical (conscientiously held belief) exemption. Unfortunately, great pressure is put on parents who choose to exempt their children. That happened to me in the case of the small pox vaccine a couple of years ago. The school insisted....and threatened to oust my child...the pressure was on.....and, as for me, I was aware of the medical, religious and philosophical exemptions.


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on Dec 02, 2011

Gardasil victims speak out in videos released by famed doc

 

ILLINOIS, November 29, 2011 LifesiteNews.com  - A well-known doctor who has repeatedly warned about the dangers of vaccines and who is particularly concerned about the Gardasil human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine, has released two video testimonies by young women who were severely harmed after having been injected with Gardasil.

Dr. Joseph Mercola notes that the U.S. government’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database indicates that Gardasil has been linked to 49 sudden deaths, 213 permanent disabilities, 137 reports of cervical dysplasia, 41 reports of cervical cancer, and thousands of adverse events reports, ranging from headaches and nausea, to outbreaks of genital warts, anaphylactic shock, grand mal convulsion, foaming at the mouth, coma and paralysis.

Dr. Joseph Mercola

Dr. Mercola also says it is concerning that HPV vaccines protect against only two of the more common strains of HPV associated with cancer, HPV-16 and HPV-18, even though there are more than 100 different types of HPV, at least 15 of which cause cancer.

Charlotte Haug, writing in the September issue of New Scientistnoted, “Vaccinated women show an increased number of precancerous lesions caused by strains of HPV other than HPV-16 and HPV-18 … what effect will the vaccine have on the other cancer-causing strains of HPV? Nature never leaves a void, so if HPV-16 and HPV-18 are suppressed by an effective vaccine, other strains of the virus will take their place. The question is, will these strains cause cervical cancer? Results from clinical trials are not encouraging.”

In the first of the video testimonies a young lady named Brittney reveals that she was frightened into receiving the Gardasil shot just after she turned 21. Following the second of the two recommended doses she lost the use of her legs. She then provides a shocking list of medical problems that resulted from receiving the injections.

In the second video, Ashley recounts the journey from being a healthy active teenager to a life of hospital visits, 911 calls, severe pain, nausea, difficulty breathing and not being able to walk from numbness in her legs.

“If I had never gotten this shot I would be a normal teenager. I wish I could go back,” Ashley says in the video.

“Deadly blood clots, acute respiratory failure, cardiac arrest and ‘sudden death due to unknown causes’ have all occurred in girls shortly after they’ve received the Gardasil vaccine,” Dr. Mercola explains. “These are atrocious risks to potentially prevent cervical cancer one day down the road. Because let’s not forget that the HPV vaccine has not yet been proven to actually prevent any kind of cancer.”

“The bottom line is that Gardasil is largely ineffective, potentially very dangerous, and a major waste of money,” Dr. Mercola concludes.

The videos, and further information, are available here.

on Mar 03, 2012

are there similar religious, medical and philosophic objections to government refusal to admit children of parents who are not yet convinced lice to be a public health issue?

on second consideration, religion and philosophy make medicine so irrelevant, please forget i asked about that part.

 

on Mar 03, 2012

I guess we'll have a real situation on our hands when having lice and treating it is linked to sudden deaths, permanent disabilities, cervical dysplasia, cervical cancer, as well as outbreaks of genital warts, anaphylactic shock, grand mal convulsion, foaming at the mouth, coma and paralysis. 

 

on Mar 05, 2012

lulapilgrim
I guess we'll have a real situation on our hands when having lice and treating it is linked to sudden deaths

that's the kinda thinking that puts the us back into typhus.

on Mar 06, 2012

People have concerns, and indeed, nothing is 100% safe and effective. 

People also have a duty to the society in which they live. It is unfair and often illegal not to be vaccinated because those not immunized can be a source of disease and death to others who are immune compromised (diabetics, cancer and kidney failure patients, etc.).

It is legitimate to have standards of public health which trump religious, personal beliefs and even personal freedoms. That is because individual rights end where the other's nose begins.

No one is entitled to endanger the health and life of others out of the fear of "not wanting to take the chance". That goes for adults and those for whom the adults are responsible. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

If one feels strongly this to be wrong, then by all means find a suitably isolated spot and live there as you wish. 

on Mar 06, 2012

People have concerns, and indeed, nothing is 100% safe and effective.

Yes, absolutely. And adults are free to assume risks for reasons of their choice, but again, risks are not something that government in a free society should ordinarily force people to accept.

People also have a duty to the society in which they live.

Yes also true. But the question is how far does a parent's duty to the State go?

It is unfair and often illegal not to be vaccinated because those not immunized can be a source of disease and death to others who are immune compromised (diabetics, cancer and kidney failure patients, etc.).

Actually there are a dozen or so states that support allowing parents to opt out from the one size fits all policy for vaccinations. Maine, where I'm from, has 3 exemptions to the immunization law...for medical, personal and philosophical reasons.

It is legitimate to have standards of public health which trump religious, personal beliefs and even personal freedoms. That is because individual rights end where the other's nose begins.
 

I suppose if one puts State above God and family, which I don't.

We can't trust the government anymore to tell us the truth, to be honest about the research or lack thereof behind its rules and mandates. We are living in a topsy turvy, disordered world...and parental rights are all but gone especially when it comes to vaccinations. In California, HPV vaccines are given to young girls without their parents permission while the state requires parental permission for a flu shot!!!

 

 

on Mar 08, 2012

It’s not just Pepsi: drug, food, cosmetic companies use aborted baby cells, says scientist

BY CHRISTINE DHANAGOM

  • Mon Mar 05, 2012 17:39 EST
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March 5, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - While Pepsi has been in the spotlight lately for contracting with a company that uses cells originally derived from an aborted fetus in flavor research, it’s not the only company that pro-lifers should think about boycotting for such unethical practices, reports the National Catholic Register.

Rebecca Taylor, a Technologist in Molecular Biology, has compiled a list of companies that use cells and tissues derived from aborted babies to develop their products, which range from childhood vaccines to cosmetics. Her list includes one English company, ReNeuron, which has applied for clinical trials in the United States.

Here are the companies, with their contact information. To find out more about how these companies use cells derived from aborted fetuses, read the piece at the National Catholic Register.

Neuralstem
9700 Great Seneca Highway
Rockville, MD 20850
Phone: 301.366.4960

ReNeuron,
10 Nugent Rd 
Surrey Research Park 
Guildford, Surrey 
GU2 7AF 
UK
Email: info@reneuron.com

Neocutis Inc.
3053 Fillmore Street # 140
San Francisco CA 94123
Phone: 1-866-636-2884
Email: info@neocutis.com

Merck 
One Merck Drive
P.O. Box 100
Whitehouse Station, NJ 08889-0100 USA
Phone: 908-423-1000

GlaxoSmithKline
GlaxoSmithKline plc
One Franklin Plaza
PO Box 7929
Philadelphia PA 19101
Phone: 1-888-825-5249
Email

Senomyx, Inc. 
4767 Nexus Centre Drive
San Diego, California 92121
Phone: (858) 646-8300
Email: info@senomyx.com

Taylor notes that Senomyx, which tests flavor enhancers using a cell line derived from the kidney tissue of an aborted baby has reportedly contracted with PepsiCo, Kraft and Nestle.

on Mar 10, 2012

lulapilgrim
We can't trust the government anymore to tell us the truth

"anymore" suggests there once was a time when government could be trusted. 

on Mar 11, 2012

kingbee
"anymore" suggests there once was a time when government could be trusted.

on Mar 12, 2012

 I'll drink to that! 

on Mar 16, 2012

Abortifacient Vaccines, Technological update, Hazards, and pro-life appraisal

 

http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=3910

 

on May 29, 2012

http://onemoresoul.com/news-commentary/autism-traffic-and-unstudied-vaccine-components.html

 

Autism, Traffic and Unstudied Vaccine Components ....I found this very interesting. 

 

on Jun 27, 2012

There is a battle brewing in Canada between the Church and the State over the HP vaccine...


Calgary bishop raps critics for trying to force vaccinations in Catholic schools

 

CWN - June 27, 20 Bishop Fred Henry of Calgary, Alberta, has fired back at critics who, he said, “purposely misrepresent” the policies of the diocese in their calls for Catholic schools to inoculate girls with the HPV vaccine.

After a group called HPV Calgary charged that the diocese was leaving girls vulnerable to cancer, Bishop Henry pointed out that Catholic schools are not preventing students from receiving the vaccine. The diocesan policy only states that the vaccinations will not be administered in the schools. HPV Calgary has complained that most parents choose not to vaccinate their daughters when the shots are not administered in schools.

"Why don't they spend their time trying to figure out an alternate way and site to vaccinate children?” Bishop Henry asked. “Instead they would rather demonize those who don't agree with their approach and consistently and purposely misrepresent the Alberta Bishops teaching, and override religious freedom and parental rights.”

 

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