Safe and Effective and should they be government mandated?
Published on March 16, 2008 By lulapilgrim In Current Events

Vaccinations--Pros and Cons

Safe and Effective and should they be government mandated?

The number of available vaccines are increasing and so are the questions of parents and concerned individuals who want to be enlightened about the pros and cons.

On another forum, KFC noted that some parents in Belgium are being jailed for refusing to have their children vaccinated against polio. According to a Lifesite news report, 2 sets of parents have been sentenced to five months in prison as well as a hefty fine for their crime. It’s a crime because the polio vaccine is legally mandated in Belgium and France. The article didn’t reveal why the parents have refused to vaccinate their children. However, vaccination has long been a subject of health and ethical concern, especially since the discovery that numerous vaccines, including several versions of the polio vaccine, are made using tissue from aborted fetuses. It’s unclear whether or not Belgium's polio vaccine has been tainted with fetal tissue.

While no vaccine is 100% safe, medical experts and health officials have long insisted the risk of diseases far outweigh the risks associated with vaccines. And that’s where the rub lies. It’s a small percentage, but what if it happens to you? Various anti-vaccination groups argue that long-term health concerns for children who have received vaccinations have not been adequately addressed, with some claiming that vaccination shots can lead to medical problems such as cancer, autism and even SIDS, "sudden infant death syndrome".

In 1986, due to pressure from parents who children had suffered devastating problems after being vaccinated, the government created the National Vaccine Compensation Program and since then has paid out more than 1.2 billion dollars in settlements to compensate families or individuals in which vaccines killed, caused brain-damage or otherwise seriously hurt children.

Right now, we have pretty much employed a "one size fits all" vaccination policy and as specified on the Universal Childhood Immunization Schedule our children as early as only a few days old are required to get certain vaccines. Besides that, there is a concern about the practice of giving a child as many as 6 separate shots or one super shot containing as many as 9 vaccines (some containing mercury) in one visit. It seems that 75% of the settlements cited above concerned the DPT vaccine given to babies at about 2 months old. Turns out they are linking many multiple learning disabilities as a result of a negative reaction to DPT.

In an effort to make this world a better place, and with a billion dollar budget, the drug industry and the medical community are racing forward developing all kinds of vaccines. Case in point is the new HPV vaccine which is supposed to protect against certain strains of human papillomavirus (STD) which lead to cervical cancer. Problem is only a fraction of that budget goes to fund independent studies of side effects and that finally has come to the attention to some in Congress.

Who decides what drugs are forced on children? One parent group based in Ohio supports allowing parents to opt their children out of vaccines and as a result, a dozen or so states have granted a limited medical exemption, a religious exemption, and a philosophical (conscientiously held belief) exemption. Unfortunately, great pressure is put on parents who choose to exempt their children. That happened to me in the case of the small pox vaccine a couple of years ago. The school insisted....and threatened to oust my child...the pressure was on.....and, as for me, I was aware of the medical, religious and philosophical exemptions.


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New study finds autism linked to fetal-contaminated vaccines

Steve Weatherbe

 

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autism , fetal cell lines , sound choice pharmaceutical institute , vaccine

As the incidence of autism has tripled since 2000, the Centers for Disease Control has denied any connections with vaccines, but one researcher says a new study backs up a little-known theory for the vaccine-autism link: that the rise in autism is due not to the use of metals in developing vaccines, but to the use of human fetal cell lines.

Theresa Deisher, the founder of Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institute in Seattle, says its time for the CDC to wake up and look at all the data linking the autism hike to vaccines, especially Sound Choice’s new study showing a strong association between child autism and vaccines against chickenpox and Hepatitis A.

“Not only are the human fetal-contaminated vaccines associated with autistic disorder throughout the world, but also with epidemic childhood leukemia and lymphomas,” Deisher declared in a news release.

Vaccine researcher Katie Doan Courtesy of Katie Doan

She added that there are “a large number of publications” linking the HERV retrovirus “with childhood lymphoma,” and that widely-used chickenpox and Hepatitis A vaccines “manufactured with the fetal cell line WI-38 are contaminated with this retrovirus.”

Deisher’s team studied data from the United States, the United Kingdom, Denmark, and Western Australia and found that the big increases in the diagnoses of autism started in the early 1990s after the introduction of several vaccines containing human fetal DNA and retroviruses, and again after the expanded use of these vaccines.

Human fetal tissue is used to grow vaccines, says Katie Doan, the lead researcher on the study, because it triggers fewer auto-immune responses in the recipients than animal tissue.

But Doan told LifeSiteNews it is impossible to use fetal DNA without contamination with broken DNA strands, despite efforts at purification. When these are injected into children they can combine with the recipients’ genes to trigger autism, she explained.

Why does the CDC urge calm—or, some would say, complacency? Because it denies any actual increase. Though the CDC reports autism incidence increased from one in 150 American children in 2000 to one in 50 in 2013, they claim that what has grown is awareness, and hence the frequency of its diagnosis, as well as the growth of the diagnosis now called “autism spectrum disorders” (ASD) to include more and more conditions.

This belief is reinforced by a recent Australian synthesis of autism studies around the world showing virtually no increase since 1990. Instead the study states that the increase in ASD diagnoses results from reclassification of behaviors previously associated with mental illness and other conditions.

But the Sound Choice study factored out increased awareness by concentrating on one of the narrowest, oldest, and best-known components of ASD called infantile autism, whose criteria have remain unchanged.

It also addressed another prominent explanation for the increase in autism diagnoses, which does accept that autism itself is really on the rise, but attributes it to the increasing age of fathers (and therefore the increasing incidence of defective DNA in offspring).

But the data on aging paternity does not match the increase in autism, whereas the increase in fetal-DNA contaminated vaccines does.

Autism is caused by a combination of factors, with about half comprising genetic defects either generated during development of the unborn child or inherited from parents, including auto-immune deficiencies and mutations.

While the CDC rejects any link between vaccines and autism, late last month one of its scientists admitted that in 2004 a CDC research team deliberately omitted data from a study indicating just such a link. Senior epidemiologist William Thompson admitted data showing a correlation between the MMR vaccine and autism was deliberately left out of the study. “I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information,” he said.

But the CDC does no research on any autism-vaccine link and according to Doan has lately ceased reporting annual vaccination numbers that would enable further research.

“The CDC has known for decades about the dangers of insertional mutagenesis by using fetal cell lines and yet they chose to ignore it,” asserted Deisher. “These discoveries should generate an immediate investigation by [Federal Drug Administration] officials if not an outright ban on the use of fetal cell lines as subtrates for vaccine production.”

Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institute is a non-profit arm of Dr. Deisher’s AVM Biotech, which develops products and methods to improve the effectiveness of adult stem cell treatments, in conformity with Catholic moral teaching.

on Oct 05, 2014

in the event an effective ebola immunization vaccine be developed...

 

on Oct 05, 2014

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

on Oct 10, 2014

An effective ebola immunization vaccine would be good...but not out of embryonic stem cells!

on Oct 16, 2014
 

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Obama Admin backing Ebola vaccines using aborted baby cell lines

 
By John-Henry Westen

The Obama Administration has chosen to back Ebola vaccines made using cell lines cultivated from aborted babies, despite the fact that the government itself acknowledged that moral alternatives could also be used, according to a pro-life organization that specializes in advocating for morally produced vaccines.  

Children of God for Life says it has discovered that several Ebola vaccines in development for use worldwide are being made using the aborted fetal cell lines.

The proof of the use of the controversial cell lines in the manufacture of the vaccines is found in the patents. 

According to the patents, Glaxo SmithKline (GSK) and NIAID are jointly developing their ChAd3 vector for delivering the Ebola virus gene using HEK-293 (human embryonic kidney) cells. 

The HEK-293 cell line was created in the early 1970s, and was cultivated from the kidney of baby that was aborted in The Netherlands. 

Likewise, NewLink Genetics of Iowa used HEK-293 cells for their VSV-EBOV Ebola vaccine in Canada, while Johnson and Johnson/Crucell developed theirs using PER C6 cells, derived from retinal tissue of an 18 week gestation aborted baby.

Human tests using the NewLink vaccine began on human volunteers in the U.S. on Monday.

"There is absolutely no reason to use aborted fetal cell lines," stated Debi Vinnedge, Director of Children of God for Life.  

In a letter to the Department of HHS, the NIH, the FDA and NIAID, Vinnedge points out that the US Department of Health has itself listed other viable options to using the embryonic cell lines, such as yeast, insect, plant, bacteria, CHO, BHK, heLa and COS cells. 

The DoH patent states: "The attenuated [ebola] virus can replicate well in a cell line that lacks interferon functions, such as Vero cells." 

"At least two other Ebola vaccines in development by the University of Texas and GeoVax are using either Vero cells or chicken eggs,” said Vinnedge. “Likewise, therapeutic products such as ZMapp (LeafBio) and TKM-Ebola (Tekmira) are using plant or Vero cells"

"It is completely irresponsible of this Administration to put these problem vaccines on fast-track for approval and ignore the fact that a massive number of people may very well refuse them,” added Vinnedge. “Why not fast track a product that everyone can use in good conscience?"

Children of God for Life is urging the public to contact US government agencies and their members of Congress requesting that they expedite the morally acceptable alternatives.

 

Contact:

Sylvia M. Burwell, Secretary                                                           
Dept of Health and Human Services
200 Independence Avenue
Washington, DC  20201                                                                                                              

Dr Francis S. Collins, Director
National Institutes of Health
9000 Rockville Pike  
Bethesda, MD  20892           

Dr Anthony Fauci, Director
NIAID Office of Communications and Government Relations
5601 Fishers Lane, MSC 9806
Bethesda, MD 20892-9806

Margaret A. Hamburg, Commissioner
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
10903 New Hampshire Avenue
Silver Spring, MD 20993

on Oct 16, 2014

Pro-Life Group: Several Possible Ebola Vaccines Rely on Cells From Aborted Babies

by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 10/15/14 6:42 PM

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With concerns about the Ebola virus on the minds of Americans and people worldwide given new infections, one pro-life group is hoping that moral alternatives will be pursued when creating an Ebola vaccine.

Children of God for Life announced today that several Ebola vaccines in development for use worldwide are made using aborted fetal cell lines despite the fact that moral alternatives are reported as equally effective.

vaccineAs the pro-life group informed LifeNews.com:

Glaxo SmithKline (GSK) and NIAID are jointly developing their ChAd3 vector for delivering the Ebola virus gene using HEK-293 (human embryonic kidney) cells.  Likewise, NewLink Genetics of Iowa used HEK-293 cells for their VSV-EBOV Ebola vaccine in Canada, while Johnson and Johnson/Crucell developed theirs using PER C6 cells, derived from retinal tissue of an 18 week gestation aborted baby.

“There is absolutely no reason to use aborted fetal cell lines,” stated Debi Vinnedge, Director of Children of God for Life.  “At least two other Ebola vaccines in development by the University of Texas and GeoVax are using either Vero cells or chicken eggs.  Likewise, there are therapeutic products such as ZMapp (LeafBio) and TKM-Ebola (Tekmira) that are using plant or Vero cells.”

Vinnedge wrote to the Department of HHS, the NIH, the FDA and NIAID pointing out that even the US Department of Health listed other options such as yeast, insect, plant, bacteria, CHO, BHK, heLa and COS cells, in their own patent, stating, “The attenuated [ebola]virus can replicate well in a cell line that lacks interferon functions, such as Vero cells.”

“It is completely irresponsible of this Administration to put these problem vaccines on fast-track for approval and ignore the fact that a massive number of people may very well refuse them.  Why not fast track a product that everyone can use in good conscience?” asked Vinnedge.

 

The pro-life group is urging pro-life Americans to contact the Obama administration and their members of Congress requesting that they expedite the morally acceptable alternatives.

Contact:
Sylvia M. Burwell, Secretary
Dept of Health and Human Services
200 Independence Avenue
Washington, DC 20201

Dr Francis S. Collins, Director
National Institutes of Health
9000 Rockville Pike
Bethesda, MD  20892

Dr Anthony Fauci, Director
NIAID Office of Communications and Government Relations
5601 Fishers Lane, MSC 9806
Bethesda, MD 20892-9806

Margaret A. Hamburg, Commissioner
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
10903 New Hampshire Avenue
Silver Spring, MD 20993

View the letter sent to NIAID

List of all aborted fetal products and moral alternatives: www.cogforlife.org/vaccineListOriginalFormatEbola.pdf

on Oct 25, 2014

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/kincaid/141023

 

October 23, 2014

Feds scramble for risky vaccine
By Cliff Kincaid

By failing to impose a travel ban, the Obama administration allowed a carrier of Ebola from Liberia into the United States, where he infected two nurses, one of whom was allowed by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to travel on a plane. But don't worry. The publication Politico says the system "is working."
 
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on Nov 08, 2014

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‘A mass sterilization exercise’: Kenyan doctors find anti-fertility agent in UN tetanus vaccine

Steve Weatherbe

Kenya’s Catholic bishops are charging two United Nations organizations with sterilizing millions of girls and women under cover of an anti-tetanus inoculation program sponsored by the Kenyan government.

According to a statement released Tuesday by the Kenya Catholic Doctors Association, the organization has found an antigen that causes miscarriages in a vaccine being administered to 2.3 million girls and women by the World Health Organization and UNICEF. Priests throughout Kenya reportedly are advising their congregations to refuse the vaccine.

“We sent six samples from around Kenya to laboratories in South Africa. They tested positive for the HCG antigen,” Dr. Muhame Ngare of the Mercy Medical Centre in Nairobi told LifeSiteNews. “They were all laced with HCG.”

Dr. Ngare, spokesman for the Kenya Catholic Doctors Association, stated in a bulletin released November 4, “This proved right our worst fears; that this WHO campaign is not about eradicating neonatal tetanus but a well-coordinated forceful population control mass sterilization exercise using a proven fertility regulating vaccine. This evidence was presented to the Ministry of Health before the third round of immunization but was ignored.”

But the government says the vaccine is safe. Health Minister James Macharia even told the BBC, “I would recommend my own daughter and wife to take it because I entirely 100% agree with it and have confidence it has no adverse health effects.” 

And Dr. Collins Tabu, head of the Health Ministry’s immunization branch, told the Kenyan Nation, that “there is no other additive in the vaccine other than the tetanus antigen.”

Tabu said the same vaccine has been used for 30 years in Kenya. Moreover, “there are women who were vaccinated in October 2013 and March this year who are expectant. Therefore we deny that the vaccines are laced with contraceptives.”

Newspaper stories also report women getting pregnant after being vaccinated.

Responds Dr. Ngare: “Either we are lying or the government is lying. But ask yourself, ‘What reason do the Catholic doctors have for lying?’” Dr. Ngare added: “The Catholic Church has been here in Kenya providing health care and vaccinating for 100 years for longer than Kenya has existed as a country.”

Dr. Ngare told LifeSiteNews that several things alerted doctors in the Church’s far-flung medical system of 54 hospitals, 83 health centres, and 17 medical and nursing schools to the possibility the anti-tetanus campaign was secretly an anti-fertility campaign.

Why, they ask does it involve an unprecedented five shots (or “jabs” as they are known, in Kenya) over more than two years and why is it applied only to women of child-bearing years, and why is it not being conducted without the usual fanfare of government publicity?

“Usually we give a series three shots over two to three years, we give it anyone who comes into the clinic with an open wound, men, women or children.” said Dr. Ngare. “If this is intended to inoculate children in the womb, why give it to girls starting at 15 years? You cannot get married till you are 18.” The usual way to vaccinate children is to wait till they are six weeks old.”

But it is the five-vaccination regime that is most alarming. “The only time tetanus vaccine has been given in five doses is when it is used as a carrier in fertility regulating vaccines laced with the pregnancy hormone, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) developed by WHO in 1992.”

It is HCG that has been found in all six samples sent to the University of Nairobi medical laboratory and another in South Africa. The bishops and doctors warn that injecting women with HCG , which mimics a natural hormone produced by pregnant women, causes them to develop antibodies against it. When they do get pregnant, and produce their own version of HCG, it triggers the production of antibodies that cause a miscarriage.

“We knew that the last time this vaccination with five injections has been used was in Mexico in 1993 and Nicaragua and the Philippines in 1994,” said Dr. Ngare. “It didn’t cause miscarriages till three years later,” which is why, he added, the counterclaims that women who got the vaccination recently and then got pregnant are meaningless.

Ngare said WHO tried to bring the same anti-fertility program into Kenya in the 1990s. “We alerted the government and it stopped the vaccination. But this time they haven’t done so.”

Ngare also contrasted the secrecy of this campaign with the usual fanfare accompanying national vaccination efforts. “They usually bring all the stakeholders together three months before the campaign, like they did with polio a little while ago. And they use staff in all the centres to give out the vaccine.” But with this anti-tetanus campaign, “only a few operatives from the government are allowed to give it out. They come with a police escort. They take it away with them when they are finished. Why not leave it with the local medical staff to administer?”

Brian Clowes of Human Life International in Virginia told LifeSite News that WHO was not involved in the Nicaragua, Mexican and Philippines campaigns. “They try to maintain a spotless record. They let organizations like United Nations Population Fund and USAID do the dirty work.”

In the previous cases, said Clowes, the vaccinators insisted their product was pure until it was shown not to be. Then they claimed the positive tests for HCG were isolated, accidental contaminations in the manufacturing process.

LifeSiteNews has obtained a UN report on an August 1992 meeting at its world headquarters in Geneva of 10 scientists from “Australia, Europe, India and the U.S.A” and 10 “women’s health advocates” from around the world, to discuss the use of “fertility regulating vaccines.” It describes the “anti-Human Chorionic Gonadotropin vaccine” as the most advanced.  

One million Kenyan women and girls have been vaccinated so far with another 1.3 million to go. The vaccination is targeting women, according to the government, in order to inoculate their children in the womb against tetanus as well. The government says 550 children die of tetanus yearly.

In covering the contest of words the pro-government Nation found plenty of women who had been vaccinated and were now pregnant, even one who was the wife of a former Catholic priest who left the Church to marry. The paper ignored Kenya’s reliance on the Catholic medical system, while setting the bishops’ stand in a questionable historical context of irrational responses “largely based on religious beliefs,” the more recent murder of vaccination teams in Nigeria, and even of CIA conspiracy theories.

Why would the UN want to suppress the population in developing countries? “Racism,” is Brian Clowes’ first explanation.  “Also, the developed countries want to get hold of their natural resources. And lately, there is the whole bogus global warming thing.”

Dr. Ngare said it was the Catholic Church’s hope that the government could have resolved the matter quietly by testing the vaccine. “But the government has chosen to be combative,” forcing Kenya’s bishops and Catholic doctors to go public.

WHO’s Kenyan office and several WHO media contacts in Washington, D.C. failed to respond to LifeSiteNews enquiries over a 24-hour period.  

on Nov 16, 2014

Hello Lula ... long time no see. Still playing the crazy Catholic Nun I see. Besides dying, there are no guarantees in life as you well know so why are you so hell-bent on trying to hold the medical profession and the Government to such impossible lofty standards? Try doing that to your own church hehehe! But that is your problem isn't it ... you only deal with absolutes/perfection in a world/universe where neither concept has any real world significance and you can offer no evidence whatsoever to back up any of your claims to the contrary except for the prattle in an old book compiled from plagiarized documents from unknown authors written before any kind of scientific or real world enlightenment whatsoever took place. That is simply pitiful to use as your foundation for well … everything … today.

 

BTW … necromancy is the magical ‘Black Art’ of dealing with the dead to ‘predict the future’ (hahaha) and is practiced by fake wan-a-be witches and warlocks and well … all you deal with are the dead too as the living are just pawns; as if you communicate with them all personal like … to predict the future. Both concepts are equally absurd and for the same reason! You Christian folk just carry this ridiculous concept one more step towards the insane … you offer the living all their presumed benefits after they die. This is assuming of course that they have been properly indoctrinated in the finer points of bigotry, hypocrisy, magic, coercion, intimidation, gleeful murder of innocents and profusely lying (by the proper church only) for their entire lives to name a few. Oh yea and most importantly, that they have paid their tithes until they die and knowing the Catholic church this probably includes everything they used to own when they were alive, screw the kids.

 

Nice ‘jawing’ with you Lula but there is no need to respond to me personal like as I/we know what your one and only answer is for every question of merit put to you … god just did it … somehow/somewhen … no question allowed or answered.

on Nov 25, 2014

A big Hello to you GFTess. Good to hear from you even though you didn't address the main topic---vaccinations! What do you think? Do the ends justify the means? Is it right or wrong that governments and UN agencies sterilize millions of women without their permission?

 

 

Kenya’s bishops are right to fear a population control agenda from the UN

 

By Eric Metaxas

The reason for their call for non-participation was not opposition to vaccines in general. It was, according to the Bishops, that the vaccination program was actually “a clandestine population control program disguised as a tetanus vaccine program.”

According to the Bishops, they had “several vials” of the vaccine tested by “four unrelated Government and private laboratories in Kenya and abroad,” and all of the vials contained the “Beta-HCG hormone which causes infertility and multiple miscarriages in women.”

They presented copies of their findings to governmental officials who quickly denied all wrongdoing, as did the WHO and UNICEF officials.

But the Bishops aren’t backing down.

From 7,500 miles away, it’s difficult to know to what extent, if any, the Bishops’ charges are true. What isn’t difficult to know is that, given the history of birth control programs, especially when it comes to the poor and people of color, there is ample reason to be suspicious.

An example of this history involved the testing of the birth control pill. Before it could gain FDA approval, the pill had to undergo clinical trials. Instead of testing it on the women whom it was ostensibly meant to benefit, middle-class American women, the pill’s inventors tested it on poor women in Puerto Rico.

Starting in 1956, hundreds of poor and uneducated women were given various versions of the pill in sixty-seven locations across the island. Twenty percent suffered side effects ranging from nausea to high blood pressure and potentially lethal blood clots.

None of them were told about these potential side effects, which the pill’s developers explained away, or were told that they were guinea pigs in a clinical trial.

Mind you, these were American citizens. So imagine how poor women in the developing world were treated!

Actually you don’t have to imagine, because I’m going to tell you. For much of the late or early twenty-first centuries, Peruvian health care workers were paid between $4 and $12, a lot of money given how poor they were, for every woman they could “persuade” to be sterilized.

Thus, poor Peruvian women like Felipe Cusi would go to a free clinic complaining about flu-like symptoms and be sterilized without her consent. Others like Emilia Mulatillo would be forced to choose between feeding her children and being sterilized. And the truly unfortunate, like Alejandrina Tapia Cruz, would die after being involuntarily sterilized.

The program behind these abuses of human rights and desecration of human dignity was only one example of many such abuses that have taken place under the banner of family planning.

Look up “compulsory sterilization” on Wikipedia and you’ll find a virtual parade of nations, ranging from obvious bad actors like China to surprising ones like Israel, which admitted to giving Ethiopian immigrants birth control injections without their knowledge or consent.

None of this should surprise us. In 1939, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger proposed a “Negro Project” whose goal was to greatly reduce the birth rate among southern blacks. Not for their sake, but out of a concern about, and I quote, “careless and disastrous” breeding among the “least intelligent and fit.”

So, you’ll excuse the Kenyan Bishops if they don’t simply take the government's word that there’s nothing to see here.  There often has been.

Reprinted with permission from BreakPoint.

 

 

on Dec 11, 2014

Hi Lula: For the most part I think vaccinations are necessary because there is a lot of nastiness out there. Nature/evolution is a serial killer if left unchecked as you would have it. That is simply unacceptable, us being able to do something about it. I don’t have a problem triple checking, external testing or whatever it takes to make vaccines as safe as possible but that’s about it.

Unfortunately I believe the RCC is only interested in enriching its own coffers. And I do not I believe the RCC has any interest in bettering society at all, rather the opposite. The fact that we can cure and oftentimes eradicate your proposed gods perfect pestilence and diseases has to be one of many thorns in the Churches arse. Knowing you as I do I know you wouldn't paste anything here that challenged anything Catholic and therefore I don’t think your prolonged articles are much more than church propaganda.

This stance your church has taken against birth control will be one of the nails in its coffin. How many millions of the poor African children that you love so must die of starvation, the elements or more painfully from oftentimes curable afflictions etc. before you realize that there is a dreadful cost in human lives and suffering (not you, yours or your churches of course) to so many millions simply because the RCC believes their incognito god frowns on birth control … based on an old book written before they even had birth control; riddle me that one? You and your church continue making a mockery out of your supposed benevolent all-everything god so please continue.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Your unverified god is responsible for everything or nothing by your standards. At some point you are going to have to give your pretend god its perfect dues and admit that your pretend devil MUST work for it, not against it. What kind of sentient parent would inflict death and destruction on its own children simply to test their love … how about a make believe deranged narcissistic monster? 

on Dec 30, 2014

Lula,cat got your tongue again? Nobody else seems to GAS.

on Jan 23, 2015

Kenyan bishops remain leery of vaccination campaign

 

Catholic World News - January 22, 2015

 

 

The Catholic bishops of Kenya remain concerned about a vaccination campaign sponsored by the World Health Organization, despite preliminary tests that seemed to quell fears that the vaccine included chemicals that would sterilize women without their knowledge.

After the Catholic hierarchy complained that the vaccine was being used as part of a surreptitious sterilization campaign, the bishops agreed with the government to undertake a joint testing campaign. Early results from those tests showed that none of the vaccines provided by the government included Beta HCG, the chemical that would cause sterilization.

However, Church leaders observe that the government provided new vaccine samples for these tests, whereas earlier samples, tested last year by Catholic scientists, showed the presence of Beta HCG. A private laboratory, using samples obtained last year, also found that some vials included the suspect chemical.

Cardinal John Njue, the chairman of the Kenyan bishops’ conference, remarked: “It is worth noting that only the Catholic Church had collected samples during the actual March and October 2014 tetanus vaccination campaigns.” In light of the remaining questions about why Beta HCG was found in the samples last year, he suggested that further testing should be conducted.

“We insist that no further mass tetanus vaccination campaigns should be undertaken in Kenya before the vaccines have been appropriately tested and proven to be safe,” the bishops’ conference announced.

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on Jan 25, 2015


 

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Sigh, have fun talking to yourself  

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