OBAMANATION, the new Democrat religion

Hark! The arrival of the cultus of Personality

Published on March 7, 2009 By lulapilgrim In Politics

You know what? Ever since Obama made all kinds of outrageous promises of hope, really hype, the Liberals are in adoration and his flock of sheople have been blind with delight.

Obama is a god in the cult of Personality! A friend recently sent me an article from the Remnant newspaper that has something I'd like to share with you for your consideration.

The new ten commandments of Obamanation are:

1 I am Barack thy Obama, thou shalt not cling bitterly to the Lord thy God.

2 Thou shalt not take the name of Barack in vain.

3 Remember keep holy the Inauguration Day.

4 Honor thy mother and her partner and honor thy father and his partner.

5 Thou shalt kill (the unborn).

6 Thou shalt not commit chastity.

7 Thou shalt steal from the rich.

8 Thou shalt not bear firearms against the wildlife.

9 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's quota.

10 Thy shalt covet thy neighbor's wealth.

Comments (Page 24)

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KFC Kickin For Christ

on Apr 13, 2009

I know.

You need to straighten up and fly right......

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AldericJourdain

on Apr 13, 2009

KFC Kickin For Christ

reply 21

I know.

You need to straighten up and fly right......

LOL

N'ah, I prefer flying left.

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AldericJourdain

on Apr 13, 2009

For the record though - I tend to listen to my mother when she gives me advice.In fact, I often seek her advice, as well as advice from other elder individuals I know. Still, she knows that I really like my independance and knows full well that I understand and have accepted that I get to face the consequences of my actions, and so on.

~Alderic

349

lulapilgrim

on Apr 13, 2009

Alderic posts:

That Flew isn't a Christian, because Christianity is a theistic religion - and he has stated that he would, in all cases, likely, possibly, be a deist. Which is based out of reason and logic - not faith. However, he's stated before that in all cases he is more likely to believe that this God, for want of a term - is nothing more than a force, like gravity. (the "like gravity" is my interpretation of his words) He's also stated that this "belief" as you call it, is merely a hypothesis, which, lets face it - is pretty reasonable. He's a scientist/philosopher, it's in his nature to think and such.

The article is the story of an atheist's conversion...that science proved the existence of God to him.

"So why has Flew changed his mind? The main reason, he says, is recent scientific work on the origin of life which he believes points to the activity of a “creative Intelligence”. As he explained to the 2004 symposium at which he announced his new beliefs to the world, his change of heart was “almost entirely because of the DNA investigations”.

“What I think the DNA material has done is that it has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved in getting these extraordinarily diverse elements to work together. It’s the enormous complexity of the number of elements and the enormous subtlety of the ways they work together. The meeting of these two parts at the right time by chance is simply minute. It is all a matter of the enormous complexity by which the results were achieved, which looked to me like the work of intelligence.”

Flew does mention God,

Outlining his own views he (Flew) goes on:

“I now believe that the universe was brought into existence by an infinite Intelligence and that this universe’s intricate laws manifest what scientists have called the Mind of God. I believe that life and reproduction originate in a divine Source.

“Why do I believe this, given that I expounded and defended atheism for more than a half century? The short answer is this: this is the world picture, as I see it, that has emerged from modern science. Science spotlights three dimensions of nature that point to God. The first is the fact that nature obeys laws. The second is the dimension of life, of intelligently organized and purpose-driven beings, which arose from matter. The third is the very existence of nature. But it is not science alone that has guided me. I have also been helped by a renewed study of the classical philosophical arguments.

“My departure from atheism was not occasioned by any new phenomenon or argument. Over the last two decades, my whole framework of thought has been in a state of migration. This was a consequence of my continuing assessment of the evidence of nature. When I finally came to recognize the existence of a God, it was not a paradigm shift, because my paradigm remains, as Plato in his Republic scripted his Socrates to insist: ‘We must follow the argument wherever it leads.’”

I would venture that the argument will lead him to belief in Christianity.

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AldericJourdain

on Apr 13, 2009

The article is the story of an atheist's conversion...that science proved the existence of God to him.

"So why has Flew changed his mind? The main reason, he says, is recent scientific work on the origin of life which he believes points to the activity of a “creative Intelligence”. As he explained to the 2004 symposium at which he announced his new beliefs to the world, his change of heart was “almost entirely because of the DNA investigations”.

“What I think the DNA material has done is that it has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved in getting these extraordinarily diverse elements to work together. It’s the enormous complexity of the number of elements and the enormous subtlety of the ways they work together. The meeting of these two parts at the right time by chance is simply minute. It is all a matter of the enormous complexity by which the results were achieved, which looked to me like the work of intelligence.”

Actually, my understanding was that it was an intelligence not God. He's been known to use the term God ambigously and often not meaning the Christian or Judaic or Muslim God. So, I remain skeptical. There is also the fact that he said explicitely:

"Well, I don’t believe in the God of any revelatory system" - This means that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all out. By his words an inference, he believes in a logical or reason driven "God." So, sorry, but he's not on your team so to speak.

I would venture that the argument will lead him to belief in Christianity.

Well if you look at that source, and clearly read it - then go and look out other sources, he has implied that he is not sold, and will likely not be sold - on revelation based theism. In fact, Christianity is a theistic religion, and he has often stated that he is a Deist. Deism is a belief in a higher being based on reason and logic - not myth or revelation.

Sorry, but the facts go against you lula.

351

KFC Kickin For Christ

on Apr 13, 2009

I tend to listen to my mother when she gives me advice.In fact, I often seek her advice, as well as advice from other elder individuals I know.

Well that's a good thing. But I wouldn't discount what she's saying about the spiritual because she may very well be onto something. Of course I believe she is.

I have three sons. Two have followed their mom's advice after playing the independant game for a while. They are both college educated and on their own and both have a strong faith in God today. The third one is just like you. So I know where you're mother's heart is.

My gut tells me, that God's not done with you. Your story's not over.

352

lulapilgrim

on Apr 13, 2009

Well if you look at that source, and clearly read it - then go and look out other sources, he has implied that he is not sold, and will likely not be sold - on revelation based theism.

I admit, I know nothing of Flew other than reading this article and so based on it, I 've got to disagree with your assessment....for what Flew writes in his book indicates otherwise...

Although he says he is now a deist – he hasn’t yet embraced any particular religion – he says he is most impressed by the evidence for Christianity. In his book, There is A God – How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed his Mind – Flew includes an essay by New Testament scholar and Anglican Bishop of Durham N. T. Wright which presents an “assessment of the body of historical fact that underlies Christian theists’ faith in Christ”. Commenting on this essay, Flew says: “In fact, I have to say here that Bishop Wright presents by far the best case for accepting Christian belief that I have ever seen.”

I would venture that the argument will lead him to belief in Christianity.

Sorry, but the facts go against you lula.

Noooooo, Alderic.

Flew points out that he is primarily a philosopher applying philosophical reasoning to the findings of science. Along with Einstein he laments that many scientists (like Dawkins) make poor philosophers. At the same time, he says his views are based purely on reason, not on faith. Nevertheless, he is clearly now more open to arguments in favour of the God of religious revelation. At the end of his book you are left with the impression that he is inviting the reader to stay tuned for further developments.

And then he says he's open to arguments in favor of the God of religious revelation.

Regarding Origins, Special Creation, Christians know that the Holy Bible cannot clash with science. It cannot by definition...for God is the principal Author of Scripture, is omniscient, Truth Itself and Creator of the Universe and all that's in it including space, time and matter at the same time.

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AldericJourdain

on Apr 13, 2009

Well that's a good thing. But I wouldn't discount what she's saying about the spiritual because she may very well be onto something. Of course I believe she is.

I have three sons. Two have followed their mom's advice after playing the independant game for a while. They are both college educated and on their own and both have a strong faith in God today. The third one is just like you. So I know where you're mother's heart is.

My gut tells me, that God's not done with you. Your story's not over.

Again, perhaps. As I always say - time will tell.

~Alderic

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AldericJourdain

on Apr 13, 2009

I admit, I know nothing of Flew other than reading this article and so based on it, I 've got to disagree with your assessment....for what Flew writes in his book indicates otherwise...

I've been a big fan of Flew for years, so - not to sound arrogant - I guess I would the expert here. I'm not entirely certain, but based on my reading of his works and so on, I feel I've got a good grasp. However, I'll conced that I am not the man himself, so I could be wrong.

I'm staying tuned....very hopeful...because Flew is a philosopher applying philosophical reasoning to the findings of science...wow! That says A LOT! ....Genetics has already brought him to belief in the existence of God and the origins of life.

And then he says he's open to arguments in favor of the God of religious revelation.

Regarding Origins, Special Creation, Christians know that the Holy Bible cannot clash with science. It cannot by definition...for God is the principal Author of Scripture, is omniscient, Truth Itself and Creator of the Universe and all that's in it including space, time and matter at the same time.

What I keep seeing from him is: he is open. This may be where the evidence has led him, but for the most part he isn't completely sold. He's specifically stated that he doesn't believe in revelation theology, and that means that Christianity would have to be ruled out (among other faiths).

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jdcriveau

on May 04, 2009

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356

KFC Kickin For Christ

on May 04, 2009

I think it's time JD gets blacklisted.

He's spamming all of us.

357

AldericJourdain

on May 04, 2009

I think it's time JD gets blacklisted.

He's spamming all of us.

Agreed.

358

lulapilgrim

on May 04, 2009

Evidently the guy is running for office and here he is just trying to get a word in "edgewise"!

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jdcriveau

on May 05, 2009

to take ones christianity and mock it like such i do not know what is worst what you are saying or what you are doing

yes i am against the evils to this nation that will be done yet i find that to mock the 10 commandments iin such a way when our own government is built upon these ideals and in god we trust

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lulapilgrim

on May 05, 2009

JDCRIVEAU POSTS:

to take ones christianity and mock it like such i do not know what is worst what you are saying or what you are doing

Hmmm...that's interesting becasue you initially said:

yes what you say is very true

What I've done is illustrate how Obamation is in stark contrast to God's Ten Commandments. This blog has resulted in a vibrant, civil discussion with 360 comments including yours.

Now, if you wish to continue discussing, fine...but I will delete your comments if you post just to advertise yourself.

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