Yes, every single book or documentary ever made is bias to one side or the other, consciously or subconsciously. If a person really wants "The Truth" the will have to sift through mountains of what others call their "Truth" and make up your own mind.

I could start pointing history books that are used in the "Education System" that are full of out-right lies. But history is always written by the victors or those currently in control. Control is the key word, shaping minds is thee most important issue our masters face when keeping the masses in line.

The following is an observation and a question.

BT posts #11  I believe things because I can prove them or am willing to accept the proof of others who can provide their proof.

BT posts:

Lula posts: Since you don't believe God created nature, but believe in nature,  I have to ask....... how did nature come to be on earth and what is the body of empirical scientific evidence that supports that?

BT posts: #64 

Hmmm......can you see that you don't hold yourself up to your own professed standards of believing things because you can prove them?

You've brought up the grave scandal of homosexuality in the church twice and so it bears a response.

The Church has consistently condemned all forms of sexual immorality which includes homosexuality ever since the days of Christ and His Apostles when the Church was first established.  

Christ warned that scandals would come. The human side of the Mystical Body of Christ (the Church) is made up of sinners and Catholics themselves condemn the bad conduct of anyone of her individual members, her priests and religious included. Faithful Catholics are outraged by the immoral behavior of those priests who sin against God's Sixth Commandment and dissent from the constant teachings of the Church.

The sin is being exposed, Our Lord's way of purifying His Church.

At the same time, there are thousands of holy priests who have retained the Faith. 

BT posts:

Praise Almighty God the clerical sex abuse scandal and the coverup has been exposed. Catholics acknowledge the reality of the horrible acts of the abusers and we are absolutely outraged at those who covered it up. We are most compassionate for the victims and work is being done to assure this never happens again. 

I have every reason for hope knowing the vast majority of priests and bishops are honest, faithful servants of Christ and His service as ministers to His people.

Imagine that!  

History itself, archaeology, ancient artifacts, Dead Sea Scrolls, and Herod's palace aren't good enough proof!  Doesn't pass the science test you say! 

Could it be because you've hardened your heart to truly seeking truth and have purposefully put blinders up...and like a fitful child.....don't want to see...and don't want to hear and don't want to really know of Almighty God and His Church and  revealed one, holy, catholic and apostolic  religion?

Just something to think about.

Darwinian Evolution is a pseudo scientific theory that has been masqueraded as fact in all government schools and one that atheistic materialists have placed all their marbles.

My goodness, here you are trying to slam religion and the Bible using the flat earth myth!

 Let's take what you said line by line.

Actually more than a couple thousand years ago, people knew the earth was a globe  thanks to the writings of Isaias, one of God's prophets.  He lived in the time of Hezekiah, King of Judah in 716-687 BC. Isaias was killed (martyred for the faith) by being sawed in half by his son-in-law, King Manasses. God knew the earth was a globe; after all, He created it that way. God inspired Isaias to write His prophecy.

Check out Isaias 40:21-22.

It states, "Do you not know? Hath it not been heard? Hath it not been told you from the beginning? Hath you not understood the foundations of the Earth? It is he that sits upon the globe of the earth....."

So there you have it...sometime between 716 and 687 BC when Isaias penned God's prophecy, they knew the earth was a globe.

And this knowledge that the earth was a globe wasn't lost to the subsequent generations. The medieval scholars and scientists (Jean Buridan and Nicholas Oresme for example) never doubted the earth is a globe or sphere and by the 15th century the fact the earth was a globe was fully grasped. 

Christopher Columbus was a devout Catholic and he knew the earth was not flat becasue he knew the Scriptures.

Who were many of the early scientists?...Catholics….and some were priests.

Turns out "your" science in this case had to catch up with the Bible, didn't it?

LOL, how many books did your "church" ban. How many early scientists and priests did your "church" declare enemy's of the the church and brutally kill? Quote me some of these if you are up with your church history.

 I have 3 different bibles and they all read the same way. I think you need to look up the difference between circle and globe.

I am willing to bet that in the near future your quote will be edited to "Globe" so that you can use it properly in arguments like you just failed at. 

Lula, I really do not like this, it is not how I like to correspond so at least try and stop taking what I say as a personal attack, I just do not believe ... what else am I supposed to do or say?

MyfistO,

Good to have you enter the discussion.

Regarding Isaias 40:21-22, I wrote:

I too own several different Bibles and know that the word "globe" was translated to the word "circle". 

However, since "all Scripture, inspired of God is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, and to instruct in justice..." , I  quoted the Douay Rheims version and for good reason. It's the most accurate translation of St.Jerome's Latin Vulgate Bible (405 AD), which is a word-for-word translation from the original Hebrew and Greek. St. Jerome was a consummate linguistic genius, Greek speaking from birth, knew Hebrew and Latin perfectly and had many manuscripts to work from that are no longer extant. I believe he was raised up by God to translate Scripture into common Latin.

In my comment #70 I gave a little background about the Douay Rheims and the Septuagint.

I'm convinced the word "globe" is the original word in Isaias because the Hebrew text forms part of the Dead Sea Scrolls found in Qumram and the Greek version of Isaias in the Septuagint is the same as the Hebrew text. (Masoretic).

As I see it, the difference in this case isn't that much of a difference at all.

BT said: A couple thousand years ago the world was flat, everyone knew that. Say, wasn’t that back around the times when your bible was being composed?

Even quoting Isaias with the word "circle" refutes BT's "flat earth" comment.

Jerome's Latin Vulgate (405 A.D.)

qui sedet super gyrum terrae et habitatores eius sunt quasi lucustae qui extendit velut nihilum caelos et expandit eos sicut tabernaculum ad inhabitandum

gyrum accusative singular of gȳrus

Latin

Etymology

From Ancient Greek γῦρος (guros)

Pronunciation

• (Classical) IPA: /ˈɡʏː.rus/

Noun

gȳrus (genitive gȳrī); m, second declension

1. circle
2. a circular motion
3. a circuit, course, ring
4. (by extension) place where horses are trained

You really want to go there with me?

CIRCLE

1 a round plane figure whose boundary (the circumference) ...

PLANE

…a flat surface on which a straight line joining any two points on it would wholly...

Oh and thanks for the welcome. Glad to join the convo.

Lula - St. Augustine (354–430) (Augustine of Hippo), took a more cautious approach in arguing against assuming that people inhabited the antipodes: His scientific reasoning went like this - Since these people would have to be descended from Adam, they would have had to travel to the other side of the Earth at some point; Augustine continues: It is too absurd to say, that some men might have taken ship and traversed the whole wide ocean, and crossed from this side of the world to the other, and that thus even the inhabitants of that distant region are descended from that one first man.

Yea, they thought the world flat alright which was my whole point in the first place. People who believe they live on a pancake do not have the ability to understand to even comprehend the universe around them let alone cover it in your book of books, is all. There is a big difference in knowing something and convincing the other Neanderthals is entirely another matter heresy being what it was then. Globe my eye.