Tell it like it is, somebody has to do it before it's too late.
Published on October 24, 2011 By lulapilgrim In Current Events

Whether or not you'd vote for him, he's got this right.

 

A must watch video.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qtjfMjjce2Y

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qtjfMjjce2Y

 

 


Comments (Page 2)
on Oct 27, 2011

among the best quotes of the week.

 

 

"As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given  

the Nobel Peace Prize without any accomplishments to his  

name, because America gave him the White House based on  

the same credentials…"

     ~Newt Gingrich

 

on Oct 29, 2011

Tova7
I'd say he has just about as much experience in foreign affairs as Obama did when he came to office.

How SO? Obama was on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ,Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and the Subcommittee for European Affairs. Certainly not extensive experience, but what exactly does Cain bring to the table in foreign affairs?

 

Tova7
I have no problem with someone speaking and making mistakes.

They are more than just mistakes. I call it the pandering game. I understand why they do it. It is difficult when the strategy is to grab the base for the primary and then "become a centrist" for the general election. My overall point is that I find him to be no more straightforward than some of the others. Straightforward to me is somebody like Ron Paul. Not somebody I plan on voting for but I don't think I have ever seen him change his position or use ambiguous language when stating his positions on issues.

 

Tova7
HC will without doubt get the most savy people to work the state dept/dod

However that is one place where my doubt lies. I usually look at a candidates website to see who their advisers are since many are usually rewarded with key posts within administrations. Not much substance on his site that's for sure.

 

Tova7
I've listened to HC on the radio off and on for years

That holds no sway for me. I've heard him too. I listen to a lot of political radio, its interesting and entertaining but any way you slice it, it is ALL propaganda.

 

 

on Oct 31, 2011

Smoothseas
That holds no sway for me. I've heard him too. I listen to a lot of political radio, its interesting and entertaining but any way you slice it, it is ALL propaganda.

Perhaps it is.  However, I don't believe one can give an opinion day after day for years on end and keep from revealing aspects of their character and beliefs.  Just reporting the news?  Sure.  But commentary?  Not so much. 

Smoothseas
I usually look at a candidates website to see who their advisers are since many are usually rewarded with key posts within administrations. Not much substance on his site that's for sure.

Different strokes I guess.  A website is not even on my list of things required by a future president, let alone the absence of which to judge him.

Smoothseas
I call it the pandering game. I understand why they do it. It is difficult when the strategy is to grab the base for the primary and then "become a centrist" for the general election. My overall point is that I find him to be no more straightforward than some of the others. Straightforward to me is somebody like Ron Paul. Not somebody I plan on voting for but I don't think I have ever seen him change his position or use ambiguous language when stating his positions on issues.

Hmm.  I haven't seen that at all.  I see a man who admits his mistakes.  Could it be that we've become so jaded that a little humility seems like pandering?

Smoothseas
How SO? Obama was on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ,Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and the Subcommittee for European Affairs. Certainly not extensive experience, but what exactly does Cain bring to the table in foreign affairs?

True.  I guess Obama's 300+ days of actual Senate time may have gotten him a brief glimpse at foreign affairs.  But I wouldn't qualify it as "experience."





on Oct 31, 2011

Smoothseas
As far as business acumen why do you consider this a plus for a presidential candidate? In what ways does being a business exec show ones ability to deal with foreign affairs or enforcing the laws of the land?

 

If you check, Obama had neither---no business, executive, or foreign affairs experience when he first ran for Congress.

True. I guess Obama's 300+ days of actual Senate time may have gotten him a brief glimpse at foreign affairs. But I wouldn't qualify it as "experience."



Good point Tova. I would add that as far as one's ability to deal wtih foreign affairs, Obama does have experience bowing to a Saudi king.    BARF!

on Oct 31, 2011

A website is not even on my list of things required by a future president, let alone the absence of which to judge him.

I don't judge him on the absence of information on a website. The lack of information on his website simply gives me less information to judge him on, just as the lack of a record as a Governor or legislator gives me even less information than other candidates from which to judge him. If I can't judge him to a degree with which I find acceptable I simply won't vote for him.

True. I guess Obama's 300+ days of actual Senate time may have gotten him a brief glimpse at foreign affairs. But I wouldn't qualify it as "experience."

Of course you wouldn't. Simply makes your bias more apparent. The reality is Obama now has more experience so when I go to the polls for the primary If I were to vote on foreign affairs experience alone I would probably choose Jon Huntsman. If I were to vote on character alone I would probably vote for Ron Paul. If I was a single-issue voter I would choose the candidate which supports that particular issue.

I don't believe one can give an opinion day after day for years on end and keep from revealing aspects of their character and beliefs.

Most of my opinion of his character and beliefs is formed from listening to his radio show, However, Showbiz is showbiz. It's all about image and ratings.

I haven't seen that at all. I see a man who admits his mistakes. Could it be that we've become so jaded that a little humility seems like pandering?

I have seen him admit some mistakes. I applaud him for that. I have also seen him pandering. I personally don't feel jaded at all. I'm simply not blind to the difference between a mistake and pandering.

 

 

 

on Oct 31, 2011

lulapilgrim
bowing to a Saudi king

Unfortunately until this country has the ability to move Saudi Arabia off the necessary oil supply list there will be plenty of bowing going on whether you see it on camera or not.

on Nov 01, 2011

Smoothseas
Unfortunately until this country has the ability to move Saudi Arabia off the necessary oil supply list there will be plenty of bowing going on whether you see it on camera or not.

We should get away from Saudi Arabia for our oil..the sooner the better, but as long as Obama is in charge, that won't happen. Another good reason he needs to get the boot.  

 

on Nov 01, 2011

Smoothseas
Initiative and intelligence doesn't win elections. Money and organization does and Cain has neither.

And now Cain is up to his ears fighting against allegations of sexual harrassment. We'll see how all that plays out.

on Nov 01, 2011

lulapilgrim
We should get away from Saudi Arabia for our oil

Take a look at current data on world oil reserves,production, and consumption. Then you might actually understand USG foreign policy concerning Saudi Arabia, and many other countries as well.

 

 

 

 

on Nov 01, 2011

lulapilgrim
And now Cain is up to his ears fighting against allegations of sexual harrassment. We'll see how all that plays out.

I hope it isn't true.  But you know what?  It was almost 20 years ago...and unless something more recent shows up, I'm not likely to believe this is habitual.

Smoothseas
Most of my opinion of his character and beliefs is formed from listening to his radio show, However, Showbiz is showbiz. It's all about image and ratings.

Most of mine opinions were formed there as well.  (I've always hated his enunciation though! lol) 

Smoothseas
Of course you wouldn't. Simply makes your bias more apparent.

Oh, well let me make it clear...I don't like Obama's leadership or apparent world view.  I am totally biased. In fact, ABO (anybody but obama) will likely get my vote next year.    

Smoothseas
The lack of information on his website simply gives me less information to judge him on, just as the lack of a record as a Governor or legislator gives me even less information than other candidates from which to judge him. If I can't judge him to a degree with which I find acceptable I simply won't vote for him.

Ok my bad.  I misunderstood your comment.  Though wouldn't a website also just be "propaganda?"  I can't imagine they'd put up anything negative.



 

on Nov 01, 2011

Oh, well let me make it clear...I don't like Obama's leadership or apparent world view.

Many people are unhappy with Obama's Administration for various reasons. But it's primary season. So I try to find the pro's and con's amongst the Republican field not the other side. Unfortunately many posters here are, for whatever reasons, totally incapable of doing that. They drift off into Obama rants instead of comparing the republican field. The only thing I consider regarding Obama is whether I think a candidate can beat him in the general election. Otherwise its primary season. I'm not interested in Obama rants. I'm interested in comparing republican candidates because that is what I'm going to the polls for next time.

 

Though wouldn't a website also just be "propaganda?" I can't imagine they'd put up anything negative.

There is plenty of propaganda there. However, some of the campaigns do have various degrees of actual plans, goals, and "promises" that they would like to at least try to accomplish. Generally you have to click past the "donate here" and "propaganda here" links to get to them.

 

on Nov 01, 2011

bowing to a Saudi king

 

Unfortunately until this country has the ability to move Saudi Arabia off the necessary oil supply list there will be plenty of bowing going on whether you see it on camera or not.

We should get away from Saudi Arabia for our oil..the sooner the better, but as long as Obama is in charge, that won't happen. Another good reason he needs to get the boot.

Take a look at current data on world oil reserves,production, and consumption. Then you might actually understand USG foreign policy concerning Saudi Arabia, and many other countries as well.

Even though we have known oil reserves here in the US, we are importing oil primarily from our 2 neighbors...Canada and Mexico.

And this is another stark difference between Obama and the GOP candidates are all for domestic drilling and developing those thus making us more self reliant and create jobs.

Besides bowing down to the Saudi king, Obama is bowing down to the radical Green environmentalists.

 

 

on Nov 01, 2011

lulapilgrim
Even though we have known oil reserves here in the US, we are importing oil primarily from our 2 neighbors...Canada and Mexico.

It's a very complex situation. Mexico's reserves are lower than ours so they won't be #2 for long. A lot of Canada's come from tar sands which is much  more expensive to produce.  So we average the cost of expensive sources with inexpensive sources. Otherwise you would be paying a lot more at the pump. Canada does the same thing. They import oil from the U.S. as well as many of the cheap sources we get our Crude Oil from. Well guess where the inexpensive sources are? (Hint:Its not the U.S. and you won't find the answer in your bible)

The energy issue is very complex. I would suggest you start reading because US news outlets only give you political propaganda.

 

on Nov 02, 2011

Smoothseas
Generally you have to click past the "donate here" and "propaganda here" links to get to them.

lol..speaking of which, I've read HCs contributions went up with the accusation of sexual harassment.

Smoothseas
So I try to find the pro's and con's amongst the Republican field not the other side. Unfortunately many posters here are, for whatever reasons, totally incapable of doing that. They drift off into Obama rants instead of comparing the republican field. The only thing I consider regarding Obama is whether I think a candidate can beat him in the general election. Otherwise its primary season. I'm not interested in Obama rants. I'm interested in comparing republican candidates because that is what I'm going to the polls for next time.

Good point.  And smart.  ~Note to self.  Don't get side tracked!~



on Nov 02, 2011

Smoothseas
That is where his problem lies. He needs to win a couple of the first few to be more precise

I agree.

As for the rest of your post, we have had career politicians and they have been abject failures.  Indeed, the best in the past 40 years was one with just a little experience in Politics.  We just elected one that was pure politics, and he is the worst.  Whether Cain will be good is a crap shoot, as it is with any unknown.  But I would like to give it a try.  Historically (pre-20th century) many presidents were newbies.  Some were good, some were not. It is time we checked out a real person.