Is Judging One Another a Modern Sin?
Published on April 10, 2007 By lulapilgrim In Religion
Over the last few days, there have been some rather lively discussions concerning leading “unGodly” lives and obeying the Ten Commandments of Almighty God or not.

I want to thank THINK ALOUD for posting the following comment: “No one, not you not me not even Prophets and Messengers CAN validate any one of being Godly or not. God did not delegate that job to anyone and HE reserves that for HIMSELF ONLY.......

hope you get my point. Regardless of anyone's actions or ideas, being Godly or not is not anyone's but God's call.

every one has the right to explain their faith, however no one can make the judgement on whether others are a believer in God or not. ungodly is a very serious description.”


I'm glad that ThinkAloud brought this up because it goes to the heart of the matter and can be very useful in discussing whether or not we should, indeed have the right, to speak up to the words, actions and deeds of our political leaders, our sports and entertainment figures, our family members and friends, and even those here on JU who think that they can do their own thing or “say” whatever they want without any moral accountability.

Let’s start by turning it around to the positive. Certainly no one would object to someone saying, "So and so leads a Godly life" if thought it to be true? Why? Because it is a positive judgmental call. However, when someone correctly judges someone else’s behavior negatively, the sparks fly. Why? Should they? Do we have the right to judge or not?

We don’t like it when someone admonishes the sinner because that would be “judgmental” or “intolerant”. We don’t instruct the ignorant because people have to find out for themselves. We don’t seek to counsel the doubtful (sinner) because that would be imposing our moral view. No one likes to be told that what they are doing is wrong. Yet, believe it or not, these are acts of mercy and love that come in part from Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount where He taught the Beatitudes. For Catholics, these works of mercy come under the heading of loving the poor and also called “Corporal and Spiritual Works of Mercy”. These are charitable actions by which we come to the aid of our neighbors in their bodily and spiritual needs. The spiritual works of mercy include instructing (teaching), advising, consoling, comforting, forgiving, and patiently forbearing. Corporal works of mercy include feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick and imprisoned, sheltering the homeless, and burying the dead. These charitable works don’t apply only to Catholics; rather they apply to all of us universally.

Here, the meaning of the word “poor” has a deeper, fuller meaning. It extends not only to material poverty but also to the many forms of cultural and “spiritual” poverty. A good example, is babies in the womb are “poor”. (When I write to my congressman and ask that he not vote for abortion, I am performing a spiritual work of mercy for the “poor” congressman and babe in the womb.) God blesses those who come to the aid of the poor and rebukes those who turn away from them. It is by what we have done for the poor that Jesus will recognize His chosen ones. St.Matt 25:31-36.

So, to answer my own question, we should charitably judge another’s words or actions (behavior). Speaking directly to being a Christian and referring to situations here on JU, our task is to speak the saving truth to them in charity and to call upon them to reform their lives.

All of us, Christians and non-Christians, most definitely are called to judge one an other’s behavior, actions, words, and deeds, BUT NEVER A PERSON’S THOUGHTS, CONSCIENCE, HEART OR SOUL AS ONLY GOD OUR CREATOR HAS THE RIGHT IN INFINITE JUSTICE TO JUDGE. So, yes, it is our rightful lawful authority to judge behavior. We do this day in and day out. This is the way we teach our children right from wrong, good from bad. This is the way the magistrates of the court operate and the basis of determining most of our laws and contracts....all are based on our words or actions. It is clearly incumbent upon us to judge.


Some of you will say, what about Jesus’ command to “not judge and you will not be judged” which is immediately followed by “Do not condemn and you will not be condemned”? Should we leave the way open for wrong-doing with impunity? No. The second phrase explains the meaning of the first one. Father Cantalamessa explained it this way. It does not so much remove judgment from our lives as it does to remove the poison from our judgment. That is, that part of our judgment which is resentment, rejection, and revenge, which often is mixed in with the objective evaluation of the deed. The word of God prohibits ruthless judgments, judgments that are merciless.

In a Jan. 2004, New Oxford Review article, Dr. R. Coomaraswamy, Professor at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, NY wrote in part,

“Now, if we were not to make judgments, how could we decide to be Catholic versus Protestant or some other strange religion? It is clearly incumbent upon us to judge. There is a clear distinction between judging an action, and the motives behind such actions. We can clearly see the act, but it is difficult to understand what motivated it. In other words, we can judge the act, but not the soul, for it is in the soul that motives lie---the latter, thank God, is up to God.

.....Jesus’ statement in Matthew 7:1, Judge not, that ye be not judged is pertinent: “Christ does not here prohibit the public judgments of magistrates, by which they condemn the guilty and absolve the innocent, for this is necessary in all commonwealths, but only in private judgments, and that when they are rash, envious, or distractive, for such are repugnant to charity and justice...Hear St.Augustine (Serm.De Temp., 102) ‘Concerning those things, then, which are known to God, unknown to us, we judge our neighbors at peril. Of this, the Lord has said Judge not. But concerning things which are open and public evils, we may and ought to judge and rebuke, but still with charity and love, hating not the man, but the sin, detesting not the sick man, but the disease. For unless the open adulterer, thief, habitual drunkard, traitor [and may we add homosexual] were judged and punished, then that would be fulfilled which the blessed martyr Cyprian hath said: “He who soothes a sinner with flattering words, administers fuel to his sin.””
“Reprinted with permission from NEW OXFORD REVIEW, 1069 Kains Ave. Berkeley, CA 94706, USA.

Finally, there is the matter of self-judgment----one of the most important judgment calls that we all must render.


Many passages in Sacred Scripture indicate times when we must judge. From the Douay Rheims Version and the NAB these include:

1Cor.5:11-13--------- But now I have written to you, not to keep company, if any man that is named a brother, be a fornicator, or covetous, or a server of idols, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner: with such a one , not so much as to eat. For what have I to do to judge them that are without? Do not you judge them that are within? For them that are without, God will judge. Put away the evil one from yourselves.

6:1-5--------Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to be judged before the unjust , and not before the saints? Know you not that the Saints shall judge this world? And if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know you not that we shall judge angels? how much more things of this world? If therefore you have judgments of things pertaining to this world, set them to judge, who are the most despised in the church. I speak to your shame. Is it so that there is none among you any one wise man that is able to judge between his brethren?

2St.John 10-11-------------------If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house nor say to him, God speed you. For he that saith unto him, God speed you, communicateth with his wicked works.

3St.John9------When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended about the body of Moses, he durst not bring about him the judgment of railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.

Leviticus 19:15------Thou shalt not do that which is unjust, nor judge unjustly. Shew neither partiality to the weak nor deference to the mighty. But judge thy neighbor according to justice.

19:17-------Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thy heart, but reprove him openly, lest thou incur sin through him.

St.Luke 12:57-59-----And why even of yourselves, do you not judge that which is just? And when thou goest with thy adversary to the prince, whilst thou art in the way, endeavor to be delivered from him: lest perhaps he draw thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the exacter, and the exacter cast thee into prison. I say to thee, thou shalt not go out thence, until thou pay the very last mite.

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on Apr 10, 2007
Testing, one, two, three. Ha, I've just dipped my foot into the pool as this is my very first blog.
on Apr 10, 2007
To: lulapilgrim

Welcome to JU and to our sometimes ferocious debates. There will be occasions when you will need a very thick skin if you are to enjoy JU to the fullest.

I was at one time a 'born'again' Christian and a Pentecostal zealot. For all my zeal and my conviction I never made a single convert. In part at least this was because I made the mistake of preaching about sinners and sin rather than the Gospels. I let Jesus hang around in the background while I told others what ungodly sinful lives they lead. Our resident godbother and would-be Christian 'teacher', KFC, is a prime example of this kind of preaching.

I learned in the end that the best and most effective kind of witness is silent and is conducted by example. And I learned, very early on, that what I thought I knew about myself and others was nothing at all in the sight of God. That's a lesson I've retained from my time as a Christian.

I will say of myself that, in Christian terms, I sin and fall short on a regular basis (I no longer accept those terms but I do accept the lesson of fallibility they convey) but that I do not live an ungodly life because I believe, I have respect for what I believe in, and I do my best to live according to that light everyday.

I'll say of others that they sometimes perform criminal acts, which are properly to be judged and condemned and punished; but I'll say nothing at all of the soul that chooses to engage in those acts because I know nothing of it, and can know nothing of it. I'm not able to cut windows in the souls of men to know how they actually are. Any judgement relating to the godliness or otherwise of a soul says more about me than it does about the subject of my judgment - and what it says condemns me for false pride and arrogance.
on Apr 10, 2007
Hi Lula,

Great first blog. You did a good job.

I was at one time a 'born'again' Christian


You keep saying this...and I've never questioned you on it before but I'd like to ask....how can this be? Can you be born and then be unborn? I believe the physical is a picture of the spiritual. How can one be physically born and then be unborn?

I let Jesus hang around in the background while I told others what ungodly sinful lives they lead. Our resident godbother and would-be Christian 'teacher', KFC, is a prime example of this kind of preaching.


would you be willing to show me some examples where I've called preached this? If you're referring to the latest broo ha ha you'd better read it again carefully. I asked a question of LW after her long response earlier.....I never accused her. I'm only going on what she's written in the past and wanted her to answer the question herself. It was a question, not an accusation based on her own words.


I will say of myself that, in Christian terms, I sin and fall short on a regular basis (I no longer accept those terms


so do I, but I do accept those terms.

All of us, Christians and non-Christians, most definitely are called to judge one an other’s behavior, actions, words, and deeds, BUT NEVER A PERSON’S THOUGHTS, CONSCIENCE, HEART OR SOUL AS ONLY GOD OUR CREATOR HAS THE RIGHT IN INFINITE JUSTICE TO JUDGE. So, yes, it is our rightful lawful authority to judge behavior


Thank you for saying it. (and to TA, and a few others who finally stuck their neck out elsewhere, thank you as well.)


so, you're thanking her for what you're accusing me of doing? I'm not getting you LW. She's saying what I did was proper. I asked a question based on your own words and behavior here on JU.
on Apr 10, 2007
Do we have the right to judge or not?

yes we do, just restrict that to the words and actions themselves and not interpret those to mean that the people involved are godly or not. that is not our call. in our opinions people can say and do wrong things, we still dont know whether they are themselves godly or not. it is a very fine line but we have to be careful not to cross it.
on Apr 10, 2007

Welcome to JU and to our sometimes ferocious debates. There will be occasions when you will need a very thick skin if you are to enjoy JU to the fullest.


Thank you EOIC. I've been posting comments now since the beginning of the year so I am quite familiar with the ferocious debates that you describe. My skin thickened after one of my comments got deleted for going off topic, and I knew then, that I had to follow the rules of the blogger. It was a good lesson. Dialoging is fun and very interesting too getting to know personalities and their "take" on different topics.


on Apr 10, 2007
When one assumes the "right" to judge another it immediately begs the question as to what standard is to be used in this judgment. A magistrate judges based upon the rule of law. But upon what rules does a person judge another person?

Does the Christian pass judgment on the Buddhist based upon Christian beliefs or Buddhist? What is the fair answer? What is the realistic answer? What is the honest answer?

The moment one engages in passing judgment upon another person they open up an entire world of subjectivism (probably not a real word) and they immediately doom themselves. I believe that is what Jesus was actually trying to communicate.

Only one who is absolutely perfect in every way has the right to judge another person. The rest of us should just try to deal with our own imperfections in the best way we can and leave everyone else alone (the whole splinter/plank concept).

Ok, that's my pittance worth, and welcome to JU.
on Apr 10, 2007
She's saying it's proper to judge behavior. You judged my entire life to be 'ungodly.' You can't see the difference?


Now, think about this LW. How can I do that? I don't know your life. I only know behavior and words you've described from your own mouth here on JU. I don't know you any other way. If I were to make any judgment it would have to be on behavior and words.

Remember, I only asked a question.....I have NEVER come out and told ANYBODY they are living a ungodly life. NEVER. Not even you LW even tho that's what you are trying to lead people to believe. It was a question based on your earlier response and I think it was a fair question based on the subject matter.

Even then, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and asked for clarification, asked you to elaborate. I then waited an entire day for you to do so before responding again, which I then did in some detail, at which time I was summarily dismissed.


I'm sorry about the time delay, I'm not aware of that, and it wasn't done purposefully. Maybe that's why you got so upset? Since when have you EVER given me the benefit of the doubt? Maybe, I'm totally wrong here, but I've not felt anything remotely like that coming from your direction.

Remember LW, no matter what I come back with you come back at me even stronger wanting to "duke it out." I'm not really interested in doing that. If I have it right, I didn't dismiss you but only said, I didn't want to argue with you. As a Christian, I don't think it's what I should be doing. I mean I don't mind debating a bit, but not arguing like I believe you want to do....from my point of view. It puts me in a place I don't want to go nor is it productive for the cause of Christ.






on Apr 10, 2007
I'm getting very tired of this double login thing. The above wasn't little whip. It was me.
on Apr 10, 2007
To: KFC

would you be willing to show me some examples where I've called preached this?


It's a question of attitude. And the attitude that offends is that of someone who believes she knows something others don't and constantly congratulates herself because of it.

You asked a question of my wife from a basis of already knowing the answer - or you wouldn't have asked the question in the form you did. In fact, if you weren't convinced you already knew the answer you wouldn't have asked the question at all. As I said to lulapilgrim - it's right to judge acts, but not the person engaged in the act, even when that judgement is implied in the form of a rhetorical question.
on Apr 10, 2007
Wow LW you have no idea how much that last response hits home for me in so many ways. I went from a devout atheist to a Christian as the result of a series of very intense "dreams". I put the word dreams in quotes because they seemed to be much more than that at the time. Something about your post really strikes a chord if you know what I mean.

While I do still consider myself a Follower of the Way, I do not affiliate myself with any modern established Christian denomination simply because I believe all of them have lost focus and none of thhat jem fully understand the real truth of the matter.

But then, neither do I, but I do believe that I at least in part understand what Jesus was actually trying to impart to us and it isn't what many of the churches involved in the modern religion business are trying to pass off as Christianity.

I do believe in a single entity we call God for lack of a better word, and I do believe in the teachings that Jesus imparted to us (as best as they were recorded), but I have to balk at much of the self-righteous, pious, and most annoying interpretations of the scriptures that many self proclaimed Christians tend to spout as most of them are seriously misinterpreted (to my personal understanding). Most Christian denominations in these modern days are so far from what I understand to be the teachings of Christ as to be a totally different religion.

The one thing that strikes me the most about what is attributed to Jesus' preachings was the denouncement of religion itself. If you really study what it is claimed that he preached about he spent a lot of time telling people that religion was a man made set of rules that were pure bullshit.

And yet an entire religion has sprung forth from the misinterpretation of these very pronouncements.

Humans are puzzling creatures.

on Apr 10, 2007
Come to think of it, maybe I'm a Druid.
on Apr 10, 2007
I took my conversion experience to be an initiation into Christianity for two reasons. 1) Christianity was the only explanation I then had for the experience I underwent. And 2) it was so identified by people I regarded as knowing more than myself.


ok, then this makes sense. Thank you for clearing that up.



I let Jesus hang around in the background while I told others what ungodly sinful lives they lead. Our resident godbother and would-be Christian 'teacher', KFC, is a prime example of this kind of preaching.


would you be willing to show me some examples where I've called preached this?




It's a question of attitude


but is that fair EOIC? You said above that I tell others about what "ungodly lives they lead"....your words. You know that's not true. You can't give me an example, because I have not done that. Aren't you judging me the same way you're accusing me of judging LW? Or even more so, because you have come out and SAID THIS TO BE TRUE? Aren't you spreading rumors about me that are not true?


Listen, to be honest, while I may think a person to be ungodly because I can see with my own eyes the ungodliness in the world all the time based on my Christian belief....I would never go up to a person and say that to them. If they ask me, yes, I would give them my perceptions, but not in a judgmental way, and I would never "judge" a person outside of actions and words.

Do you know why? Because I think a person really judges himself. Their own lives will witness against them. Jeremiah says this in Chap 2:

"your wickedness will punish you; your backsliding will rebuke you. Consider then and realize how evil and bitter it is for you when you forsake the Lord your God and have no awe of me, declares the Lord,, the Lord Almighty. Long ago you broke off your yoke and tore off your bonds and said, "I will not serve you!"

I mean God doesn't really have to. Judgment will be easy. All he has to do is play back the lives of those that are ungodly and they will see it themselves. Do I think I'm Godly? Not in myself I don't. The only way I can even begin to think myself as Godly is because of who I put my trust in. It's his covering of holiness that makes me Godly, certainly it's not me. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." The "all" includes me. I am a sinner saved by grace. If it weren't for HIM I'd be having my life played back in front of my face and I'd be in debt with no way to pay.




on Apr 11, 2007
KFC...sister...if an unbeliever's lifestyle punishes them, and you believe that, then why should CHRISTIANS go around pushing their lives in their own poo so to speak?

I'm with EoIC and Mason on this one. If you want to be a witness, I think the best way is to do it quietly, with a pure heart, and with kindness. Throwing Bible verses at people who don't care about the Bible, even if they've read it, doesn't really do any good, I think.

When I read about Jesus, I read about someone who was good at relationships. He made a connection with someone, he got to their hearts. Then, if that person had sin in his or her life, he could go about changing a life. Sometimes, these people had heard about Jesus before, and the connection took very little time, but the connection was there.

I don't write much about my faith here. I'm a Christian. I don't go to church here in this crappy little town because I can't find one that is "us". I go to Bible study weekly with some ladies from my school. I pray. I read the Bible. I try to do the right thing. But I don't force it on people. You can't force feed Jesus to people. It just doesn't work.
on Apr 11, 2007
When I read about Jesus, I read about someone who was good at relationships. He made a connection with someone, he got to their hearts. Then, if that person had sin in his or her life, he could go about changing a life. Sometimes, these people had heard about Jesus before, and the connection took very little time, but the connection was there.


then you might want to re-read with a different eye. How many times does it say in the gospels...."and there was division because of him." Whereever he went there were followers...yes, but there were more that wanted him killed. In the end there were only 120 that waited in the upper room at Pentecost. Not many after 3 1/2 years do you think?

I go to Bible study weekly with some ladies from my school. I pray. I read the Bible. I try to do the right thing. But I don't force it on people. You can't force feed Jesus to people. It just doesn't work.


I agree, neither do I. If you notice, this all started on my own blog. I don't go even close to chasing people around. But on a religious blog, (and my own to boot) I should be able to state what I believe, don't you think?

on Apr 11, 2007
Thank you, one and all, for your comments and sharing your views and concerns which are all to be taken with serious consideration.

It seems the air is beginning to clear with regard to each one's better understanding of being judgmental. This, quite frankly, is what I was hoping for in writing and therefore, see this as a good thing, a good learning curve.





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