If by "word of God" you mean only the Holy Bible, the answer in no....

The Christian Faith and morals were first taught by word of mouth (Sacred oral Tradition) from Christ to His Apostles to their successors in His one, holy, Apostolic Church built upon St.Peter as its first head.   

The Church came long before the Bible....before there was the New Testament, there was the Chruch, established during Christ's 3 year public ministry and after receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit on the First Pentecost Day the Apostles set out to teach all nations the Christian Faith and morals. After Christ ascended into Heaven, the Holy Spirit was the teacher, Comforter and guide to the Apostles and their successors in the Church.

Acts. 1:8, "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Spirit is come upon you, and ye shall be witnesses unto Me, both in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost parts of the earth."

St.Matt. 28: 20, "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

St.John 14:26, "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you."  (note here it says teach All things)

St.John 16:13, "How be it when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you to all truth...." (Note here it says all truth)

The Catholic Chruch teaches and the Bible makes clear that the "Word of God" (i.e. all that has been divinely revealed for our salvation) is not limited to the Bible alone. God's revealed Word exists in both written form and oral form, both which require acceptance and obedience.

The Chruch has Christ always with her and the Holy Ghost always to guide her, not only during the first century but throughout all ages until the end of the world. So therefore, Christ's Chruch was necessarily infallible in matters of Faith and morals....The Chruch being as St.Paul said in 1Tim. 3:15, "the pillar and ground of truth."

These latest passages together with all the others in which I've developed show Christ established one true Catholic Chruch show that her authority is infallible in matters of faith and morals. Christ rules His Church since He is her Founder and Lord.  Christ promised to be with His Chruch until the end of the world and we can be certain His guarantee didn't die with the last Apostle,,,,the Lord promised to never leave His people orphaned St.John 14:18.

The infallible authority in the Chruch exists to safeguard the integrity of the deposit of Faith (Tradition and Bible) and to foster the unity. The charism of infallibility is that gift where the Holy SPirit preserves the truth of the Apostolic Faith. The Pope enjoys the charism of infallibility when as supreme teacher and pastor of all the faithful, confirms us in the faith. St.Luke 22:32. He proclaims authoritatively an absolute decision a doctrine pertaining to faith or morals ex cathedra (from the Chair of Peter). This is a very specific and limited power.

People confuse this sometimes as though he creates new revelation through inspiration, when it's just the development of doctrine. For example, no official definition of Christ's divinity existed until the third council of Nicea in 325...not becasue the Chruch didn't believe it, but when after the belief came under attack by heretics, the Chruch defined it ex cathedra...and then Catholics know without doubt that what is defined is true becasue of the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Same thing with which books and writings would finally make up the Old and New Testament Canon....The Church decided ex cathedra the 46 for the Old and the 27 for the New Testament.

Absolutely true.....we are all human, and all sinners.... the Pope, priests, deacons included. The Pope is not and has never claimed to be impeccable. But for our sake, not for hisown, God endows him with infallibility that he may tell us wtih certainity what we must believe and do in order to save ourselves....whether or not he personally lives up to it is quite another matter and his own business.      

I can't help but to compare the traditon of the RCC with the traditons of the Pharisees.  I'll let scripture answer this:

"Then came together to him the Pharisees and certain of the scribes which came from Jerusalem.  And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.  For the Pharisees, and all the Jews except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.  And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not.  And many other things there be, which they hae received to hold, as the washing of cups and pots , brasen vessels and of tables.  Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not your disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands? "

Jesus replied:

"Well has Isaiah prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honors me with their lips but their heart is far from me.  How in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.  For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men, as the wshing of pots and cups and many other such like things you do..  Full well you reject the commandment of God that you may keep your own tradition." 

Exactly! If the Catholic Church did as Christ instructed and gave to the poor and needy then they wouldn't be rich, right? It's just one example of how "traditions" and "word of mouth" can be corrupted by man. The Bible itself has had it happen, the words have been slightly distorted by man, however it's morals still are intact, it's teachings are still there and some of us still read them rather than just blindly follow a leader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKHTabTYl_M

LOL!

I love the movie! Don't like the sad ending though.

"Oh, dear Lord. You made many many poor people. I realize, of course, it's no shame to be poor... but it's no great honour either."

The ending is realistic. But do note that the revolution was near and Lenin really did make things better for Jews.

Yes I know the ending was realistic, but still sad.  Lenin wasn't so bad it was Stalin that was a problem.

as an organization, the church has created of itself the absolute antithesis of christ's life and teachings as contained in the gospels.  if the plan was to institute an even more flagrantly arrogant self-righteous and hypocritical corps of materialists than the pharisees against whom he preached, it's been hugely successful.

are you truly able to imagine christ esconced in the vatican palace in a worldly principality, adorned in gilded fabric and surrounded by dozens of colleagues clothed like royalty?

a self-effacing kind and good-hearted animist is more in tune with your jesus than all the popes who've donned themselves in fine fabrics and indulged themselves in luxury--and more deserving of a reward in the afterlife if there was such a thing.

Wow!  Kingbee and I on the same page.

Mark it! 

Marked.

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kfc posts : #62

Remember, the one Faith of Christianity (Catholicism) is the perfect development of the one holy Jewish religion, just as the perfect tree is the perfect development of the seed from which it grew.   Just as sacred Jewish doctrine was contained in Tradition, so is sacred Christian doctrine contained in Apostolic Tradition. Almighty God gave both Sacred Oral Tradition to the keepers of the Old Law and they in turn passed down from generation to generation. Same thing with Sacred Apostolic Tradition which came from Jesus to the Apostles who handed it down to their successors, keepers of the New and Eternal Covenant.

What's the one most obvious instance of Protestants relying on the Sacred Tradition of the CC?  

KFC, can you explain how the 27 Books of the New Testament got into the canon of the Holy Bible?  It was through the living Apostolic Tradition of the Catholic Church, wasn't it? 1Cor. 11:1; 2Thess.2: 15; 2Tim. 2:2.  Think about it....you must rely on Catholic Chruch Tradition to know what the NT itself is, and you do accept it, by virtue of the fact that you have a Bible.  The CC gives all the glory to God for this for she did not make those books inspired...God did..same as with the OT...Similiarly The CC did not make them canonical...God did, by the very fact that He revealed them....same as with the OT.

The Catholic Church received this oral and written Revelation from God and the CC has been commissioned by Christ to authoritatively teach the meaning of inspired Scripture...St.Luke 1:1-4; 10:16; St.Matt. 16:18-19; 18:18; 28:18-20, etc. What this means is that the CC which had been entrusted with the great gift of the NT canon, handed on that revelation faithfully and accurately.

So, thanks KFC for supplying these passages found in St.Mark 7:1-13 which when taken in context with St.Matt. 15:1-20 explain God's law (commandments) and the man-made traditions of the Pharisees.  

If you want to know something more about the "traditions of men" that Christ was condemning (St.Luke 11:52), study what those Pharisees did at Jamnia in 90AD in putting their own canon together.

exactly BT.  We are living in what the scriptures called "the times of the Gentiles."  When this "age" is done, (which I believe should be in the next 25 years or sooner) the return of the Messiah is to be expected.  Everything is lining up and going towards that end at what seems like a very fast rate these days.  

Also, you must ask what is the "church?"  Never, in the original Greek is the word "church" connected to a building or denomination.  The word is "ecclesia" and means "called out ones."  Called out of what?  Called out of the world and its false system.  My blog "The Birth of the Whore" gets into this more in depth.  

Lula posts: Christ said I will be with My Church all days until the end of the WORLD.

It goes to the fact that there are many different translations of the Holy Bible out there. What version is this from? Just curious.

Anyway,  the Douay Rheims version has Christ's commission to His Church in St.Matt. 28:18-20 as

" And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in Heaven and in earth. 19 Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you; and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world."   

The Protestant King James version has the end of verse 20 as "...even unto the end of the world." Amen. 

The beginning of St.Matt. 24 is where Christ foretells the destruction of the Temple with the signs that will come before it and the signs that will come before the Last Judgment, which is at the consummation of the world. Here is St. Matt. 24:3, "And when He was sitting on Mount Olivet, the diciples came to Him privately saying: Tell us when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of Thy coming, and of the consummation of the world?" 

One of the signs before the end of the world is that the Gospel must be preached to the whole world, scroll down to verse 14, "And this gospel of the kingdom, shall be preached to the whole world, for a testimony to all nations, and then shall the consummation come."

The end of the Age (that is, "the Age" being the Church Age) is the end of the world at least according to the Apostles' Creed. 

We are living in the times of the Gentiles also called "the Church age"; in Scripture "the last days". "The time of the Gentiles" or "the Church Age", these "last days" is from Christ's First coming to when He will come again (His Second Coming) which is at the consummation of the world (end of the world). 

It will be when Christ comes again, the end of the world and the Final or Last Judgment. 

Who knows? No one knows how long this will be except the Father in Heaven ... so predicting it is just something that various  Protestant sects like to do.

Ah, here comes your Zionist bent! 

KFC, knock, knock, the Messias Christ already came. Christ is not coming again as Messias, to save, that time will be over as it will be the end of the world. When Christ returns it won't be as Messias, rather He will return as JUDGE of all mankind. Again, I say that because I read the whole of Scripture and believe the Apostles' Creed. 

Here's the timeline....the present Church age...when that ends which we don't know when...Christ will come again to judge mankind. No more world, no more time. t's eternity. 

The four last things are "the consummation of the world" or Death, Judgment, Heaven or Hell. Period. Nothing else, no Ages to follow.